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62212 No.2501   [Reply]

Registration is now open!
The Congress will be held in Sospel, Alpes-Maritimes, France, from the 19th to the 23rd of September 2022.
https://www.otterspecialistgroup.org/osg-newsite/register-now/

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>> No.2870  
The early bird payment deadline is this sunday, register and pay now to get the reduced fee!
Register here
Pay here
>> No.2956  

Two weeks...!

>> No.2960  

>>2956 Time goes fast

>> No.2980  

And now it's only one week

>> No.2982  
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Official program is out.



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78747 No.2850   [Reply]
>An otter invaded a couple's home in England and slept in their bed.

https://metro.co.uk/2022/07/20/couple-hear-rattle-in-home-and-discover-an-otter-sleeping-in-the-bed-17037533/

Are otters gonna be invading people's houses to sleep in our beds now? Has a new era begun?

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>> No.2880  

>>2875 looks like you already do

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Something's going on here guys, I think we better be careful
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/19/seal-breaks-into-new-zealand-home-traumatises-cat-and-hangs-out-on-couch

>> No.2924  

>>2923
I saw this and immediately thought of this thread! Good to see I wasn't alone.

>> No.2930  

Otties are always welcome guests in my house though I'm not sure if they'll be as nicely received everywhere

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>>2930
Hopefully that'll just serve to drive otters where they'd be truly appreciated



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322684 No.2834   [Reply]

Betty, a sea otter in the Aquarium of the Pacific, suddenly died without any known cause. She was healthy and did not show any unusual behavior prior to her death. Sea otters in captivity can normally live up to 20 years old.
https://twitter.com/AquariumPacific/status/1547989539913732096

What happened to Betty? Did someone do something to her? We can only speculate, but they are planning an investigation in the coming days.

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Here's a video of her, she was a big clapper.

>> No.2841  

RIP Betty
Hope they can find out what happened

>> No.2844  

Unfortunately, sometimes otters just pass. It happens to people too; I had a friend who died at 18 of an diagnosed heart condition with no symptoms at all, she just didn't wake up one day. I do hope it's something like that rather than foul play, it takes a special kind of mean to be mean to an otter.

>> No.2846  

>>2844
That's really sad, hope you got through that alright
When your time's up there doesn't need to be a rational cause I suppose

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There don't seem to be any news... But they have a four month old sea otter pup they recently rescued, still nameless



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2097923 No.44   [Reply]

Went for a spot of otter spotting today. Anyone here ever try this?
Otters are very elusive animals so it's hard to actually get to see one in the wild. To find out whether otters exist in an area you have to rely on finding spraint, tracks or setting up camera traps.

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>> No.2847  

>>2842
That's just how those cheeky otters are, they can sense when someone's after them. Animals have all kinds of senses that science can't explain, they often seemingly know things they shouldn't.

>> No.2848  

>>2842 I still hope you'll get to see them btw

>> No.2858  

>>2842
I had a thought. How about we all go to Scotland to watch otters together?
Something like this https://www.otter.org/Public/Events_OtterWatchingDays.aspx seems like a great meetup occasion to me.

>> No.2867  

>>2858
That sounds pretty cool
The tick warning has me spooked though. Forgot how tick and midge ridden Scotland is

>> No.2884  

Something for UK otter friends
https://www.mammal.org.uk/national-otter-survey/



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249828 No.19   [Reply]

Let's have a sea otter thread. Sea otters have the densest fur of all mammals. They know how to use rocks to crack open delicious sea shells. They eat urchins which keeps kelp forests alive. I love big fat fluffy cute sea otters.

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>> No.2115  

She smashes sea shells by the sea shore.

>> No.2205  

>>32
Living a better life than most people.

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Nighttime sea otter

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\o/

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>>28
No, when people saw weasels in the sea they just though FUR, and pretty soon sea weasels were hunted to extinction.



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132270 No.694   [Reply]

360 degrees.

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>> No.2648  

>>2647 I couldn't imagine a better place to sleep

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>>2468 wish I could experience such comfyness

>> No.2827  

>>2690
Otters are already comfy, but then their comfiness is multiplied by the presence of other otters

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>>2827
This creates a feedback loop of comfiness where each otter makes the other otter even more comfy, thus resulting in perfect otter sleeps

here's a pic of the small clawed otters at Denver Zoo demonstrating this phenomenon

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>>2829 Of course otters putting their heads on each other is also a sign of affection, which is cute.



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72688 No.2280   [Reply]

how cool is it that otters are both land and water predators? both require crazy amounts of specialization but otters just pull it off, and do it extremely well too. do any other animals come close to this skill level?

>> No.2282  

It's a thing of beauty, nature is like a puzzle, every piece fits perfectly

>> No.2826  

One of the key things that I just recently realized is how terrestrial predators only need to move in a two dimensional space, whereas an otter hunting a fish has to move in a three dimensional body. There's a whole new dimension introduced to the game. Diving takes a lot of practice and skill in itself, but then imagine also keeping track of a fast moving fish that's doing its best to get away from you. AND to top it off being fast and nimble enough to catch it, all while you're a land animal who hated the water before being taught to swim. Otters really are the kings of the water and the kings of hunting.



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173995 No.1199   [Reply]

Where earth and water mix, there is muddy otter.

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>> No.1213  

>>1209
Of course! Everyone knows getting muddy is a cleansing spa treatment. Otter spa is always enjoyable.

>> No.1348  

>>1213

>Otter spa

Is that a spa for otters, or a spa with otters?

>> No.1349  

>>1348
A spa of otters, by otters, for otters.

>> No.1372  

>>1349
The best kind.

>> No.2818  

>>1200
>>1202
>>1203
Glad we get to see different angles of what happens when an otter sticks his nose in a puddle of mud



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415778 No.2761   [Reply]

What do otters think about?

>> No.2762  

Depends on what they're doing... I hope they don't think too much, too many thoughts are stressful.

>> No.2787  

I think otters think about having fun, eatin clams, maybe how neat their favorite rock is. I wonder if they think about how neat they are?

>> No.2789  

>>2787 Maybe they know how amazing they are, or maybe they don't? I just hope otters feel good about being otters.

>> No.2792  

>>2789
They have the piece of mind knowing they are doing the best otting they can.



No.2246   [Reply]
>The Congress will be held in Sospel, France, 19-23 September 2022. Sospel is a village in the southern French Alps, close to the Italian border. Sospel is about 50 km from the Nice airport, and about 25 km from the Italian border (Ventimiglia, Italy).

https://iucnosgbull.org/Volume38/Vol38_Iss5_Conference.html
So, who else is coming?

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Just got word they've decided on a logo, so there'll be no need for these. I'll post them anyway just because I like them.

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>>2295

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>>2296 Similar logo to this one >>2295 but more abstract and geometric, formed by the letters I O C. Typeface: Futura.

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Official announcement and tentative program are out

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>>2739 A lot of otter topics to be covered



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Love you too!

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Wish more otter lovers could find their way here. I've written up a little piece about Otterchat for IUCN news, but I don't know if it's good or not. What do you guys think, would you change anything?

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>>2723
I think it's good to go! Hopefully it'll attract some new otternons to join this great community!

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>>2724 I hope so too, I'll probably go ahead and submit it around the weekend.



No.2674   [Reply]

>>2673
Hmm, otters and leaves are friends? The otter lore deepens.

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>> No.2677  

>>2675
yes ;-;

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>>2677
For future reference, in case you didn't know, you have to either enter the thread by hitting the reply button or by clicking the numbers of the post to enter the reply posting mode

>> No.2682  

>>2678
I know, I couldn't read the verification string so I tried to reload the page to get a new one but that didn't work and when I relaunched my browser I forgot to click back into the thread

>> No.2685  

>>2682
Sorry for the trouble :/ The captcha system is pretty basic, I just changed so it gives you a new string if you type it in wrong. Also is it easy enough to read? Because I can make it bigger if not.

>> No.2686  

>>2685
No trouble, it's definitely a me problem so no need to change anything of my accord! It's already far more visible than the ones on Anon Cafe which I regularly have to reload to get one that is legible for me. The generation of a new string after failure is a nice touch though, makes it a bit easier if you get a difficult to read captcha. Thanks Ottmin!



No.2515   [Reply]

Otters were nearly driven to extinction in the last 100 years from hunting, habitat loss and pollution. Since then, nature conservation has enjoyed a great wave of public support and laws to outlaw toxic pollutants and to protect endangered species like otters soon followed. This included a ban on hunting otters or disturbing them in any way (as in the UK example). Slowly we've seen these measures succeeding and otters have returned to many regions they had once been driven out from. Based on all this, I'm wondering what the long term goal of otter conservation should be. When otters were still common, they used to be persecuted and everyone used to hate them because they competed with fisheries. Do we just want to go back to that status quo before we nearly drove them to extinction – including returning to hunting and trapping like before?
Will we continue in some kind of legislatively self-controlled state of reduced human activity around otter habitats?
Conservation is pretty much still riding the same wave of public support that began back then. If this wave breaks, what are we gonna do? What if people stop caring about protecting nature again because they don't feel like it's being threatened anymore? Policy will be made based on what the public wants. If politicians don't think people want to protect otters anymore, then how will they be protected?
I suppose these are questions that go beyond just otters, but I'm still curious what you guys think about these things.

>> No.2517  

I feel like, with how modern life is going, conservation is always going to be a necessary thing. Unfortunately, I don't think that modern industry and existence will allow otters, or most animals for that matter, to return to their previous existences, and conservation is going to need to exist to protect otters from evil men in top hats

>> No.2650  

>>2517
Yep. Otters are still being poisoned to this day. As they once were almost driven to extinction by pesticides, now rodenticides in the water are literally causing otters to bleed to death internally.
https://archive.ph/9QsMG

The political and legislative efforts to combat pollution have evidently only succeeded in somewhat mitigating and reducing the effects, and never to address the cause. Reform can never be a solution to the suffering industrial society has imposed on the planet. It has pumped the water, ground and air full of chemicals, metals, plastics, radiation, carcinogens, genetic manipulation, and every dark and wicked concoction thought up in the depths of the laboratories that serve the vain economic interests of man. We don't even realize the full extent of the consequences this system is having yet. Plants and animals are now feeling the full force of it, but in the end it will end up in our food, our own bodies. Yes, humans have plastic in our blood now too.
The law doesn't make a difference, notice how the deadly poisoning of the earth has not stopped, it only continues in countries where regulation isn't as strict. Just look up where the most polluted rivers are today. Where regulation is stricter it finds ever new ways to manifest itself that can only be retroactively addressed when the damage is already done.
Is there any escape? Is there even any way that the next 100 years can pass by without worldwide catastrophe the extent of which we have never imagined?



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61025 No.2641   [Reply]

Otter fur is really interesting, it's so dense that it's waterproof and very warm. here's an infographic from Cardiff University. Also I hadn't heard about Royal Otters before, otters having white spots is apparently so rare that they're especially majestic.

>> No.2643  

Male otters have moustaches. Every time I learn something new about otters they just keep getting better.

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Love the way otter fur looks



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9150 No.80   [Reply]

Let's talk about creating a logo for the site. We have to be recognized.
Maybe some banners are in order, too.

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I tried something else. How's this?

>> No.2599  

>>2598
The inline style makes it look more like a banner than a logo, but it does look good.

>>2589
Yes! it looks sharper, if that makes sense. More defined.

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I like this.

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I made a banner with that Giant Otter video anon posted here a while ago.

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>>2600
I don't know where to put the otter relative to the text, but having an outline around the speech bubble also looks quite alright in my opinion.



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91689 No.2605   [Reply]

Dogs and monkeys have been sent to space. What about otters? I think they'd make brilliant astronotts.
Also, can otters swim in zero gravity? And if water were found on mars, could otters live there?

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I'm imagining otters with fur thick enough to work as a space suit

>> No.2617  

>>2607
They can trap air under the outer layer of fur, so in theory it could work.

>> No.2622  

>>2617
It would need to be a hairy nosed otter so he can breathe the air under his nose hairs



No.93   [Reply]

"The otter's charm, so little known
Holds no ceptre, has no throne
Lives in groups or on his own
Relishing his dearest stone.

Dirt upon which otter rests,
In a coat of comfort drest,
The big wide river makes him guest,
Its wealth upon the beast bequests.

Though in the waves at home is he,
and on the surface equally,
In either must he cease to be,
Split half and half, the otter's see.

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>> No.2207  

Like a blazing torch go forth
Oh otter spotter volunteers
Go where no one else will go
See what no one else can see

The queen of rivers has returned
The page has turned and spring appeared
Her home is graced by silent tread
Her kingdom welcomes her again

Be the bearer of good news
Be the light that lights our hearts
For you no water is to deep
For you no riverbank to steep

>> No.2212  

Be as an otter
Unheard, unseen
Be as an otter
Swim up the stream
Be as an otter
Just for a day
Be as an otter
Enjoy the play
Be as an otter
Enjoy the fun
Be as an otter
Never outdone
Be as an otter
Sharp claws and teeth
Be as an otter

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>> No.2374  

Mustelid, animal of such beauty
Diving, entry into the water
The fish swims away, hopelessly
Trying to preserve its life
Alas, a useless goal
Ripping and tearing
The otter hunts
Comes to land
Lies down
Eats

>> No.2576  

We're coming home
coming home
coming home to otter lands
where we once throned
we once throned
we once throned and tasted clams

We advance
we advance
we advance with every step
and build our holts
build our holts
build or holts like architects

What we gained

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>> No.2578  

otters in my head, otters on my mind
otters every day and otters every night
otters at the office, otters in the car
otters in the home, otters near and far
otters when I sleep, otters when I eat
otters when I cook and otters when I clean
otters in the morning, otters before bed
otters in my attic and otters in my shed



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31569 No.2113   [Reply]

https://otterwiki.net/ is now live!
Anyone can contribute to this project. Let's make it a great resource for learning about otters.

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>> No.2221  

>>2219
I imagine that it would be hard to get any breeding programs going for those otters whose noses are hairier than average without at least two in captivity. That being said, there are probably attempts to get some program of that sort started

>> No.2227  

>>2221 Not sure how recent that information is. Maybe there are more otters with a bit of hair on their nose in captivity now.

>> No.2571  

Page for genus Lutra is up.
https://otterwiki.net/wiki/Lutra
Hoping to complete these species' articles soon.

>> No.2572  

https://otterwiki.net/wiki/Japanese_Otter
Started the Japanese otter page!
What surprised me about this is that the last sighting was in 1979, but apparently they found spraint in 1999 so they're still looking for it, despite it officially being declared extinct. Sightings were also super rare before that, so we still aren't giving up.

>> No.2573  

>>2572 Still need to expand sections on distribution, habitat and behavior btw.



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164567 No.2467   [Reply]

How loving and compassionate can otters be?

>> No.2472  

Otters live in loving families, they care for each other more than we do I'd even say.

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If you really want to see some loving otts, just look at sea otter mothers and pups

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>>2482
So true! There's no love like mother's love.

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Otter mums are the best! Maybe that's why otters are so amazing, because they have such wonderful parents.

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Otters' love is unconditional



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21241 No.2439   [Reply]
>Rocky, a male North American river otter at the Oklahoma City Zoo and Botanical Garden, died unexpectedly on Thursday, April 21, while undergoing a routine veterinary procedure at the Joan Kirkpatrick Animal Hospital. During the procedure, Rocky, 7, went into cardiac arrest and despite emergency response efforts performed by the OKC Zoo’s veterinary care team, he did not survive.
>A popular resident at the Zoo’s Oklahoma Trails habitat, Rocky brought many smiles to guests’ faces as they watched him swimming at his habitat often rolling and flipping through the water. He will be missed by his caretakers and Zoo fans. Rocky arrived at the Zoo in 2016 from Miller Park Zoo, Bloomington, Illinois.
>📷: Andrea Johnson

RIP Rocky :(

>> No.2440  

Otters come, otters go...

>> No.2441  

>>2439
RIP Rocky, the world is all the lesser for his loss.

>>2440
But they are always present in our hearts

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>>2440
They've got a new otter! her name is Hazel and she's one year old.

>> No.2449  

>>2448 Long live Hazel!



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449068 No.2366   [Reply]

Otters are really cute, but I don't think they're the cutest. They got an adorable face, but their feet always look ugly. Any other otter enjoyers feel grossed out by their feet? I feel like other animals definitely beat otters on the cuteness scale.

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>> No.2421  

>>2420
Based as fuck lol

>> No.2422  

>>2419
Otter feet have to look like this. If they didn't, otters wouldn't survive so well.

>> No.2423  

>>2422
True but the point is otter feet aren't cute. With all I've done for otters over the years, I think I can at least say otter feet are ugly lol.

>> No.2424  

>>2423 maybe they're not cute but they're not ugly either. They're cool.

>> No.2435  

>>2423

>With all I've done for otters over the years, I think I can at least say otter feet are ugly lol.

That not how it works



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213521 No.2427   [Reply]

Are different types of otters friends with each other? For instance, if a Eurasian and a Marine otter met one another, would they be nice to one another?

>> No.2428  

Interesting question, depends on the mood I suppose. If a Eurasian and a Marine met on the beach, I think they would play. But only if they don't have a territory or a female to defend.

>> No.2429  

Interestingly the Marine otter is longer than the Eurasian otter, but the Eurasian is heavier. Can't be easily said who would win the play wrestling match.

>> No.2430  

>>2428
so much depends
upon

the mood of
otters

soaked with clear
water

beside each other
playing

Here's a shitty adaptation of "The Red Wheelbarrow" made to fit otters

>> No.2431  

>>2430 Very nice anon



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119286 No.2403   [Reply]

I just got a new computer, and lost all of my otter pics. Could y'all help me out and post some vital otter pics?

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41761 No.2165   [Reply]

How well can otters hear? And what species has the coolest ears? I think sea otters have pretty funny ears.

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>> No.2363  

>>2349
African clawless otter?

>> No.2365  

>>2363
No
Shall I reveal the answer?

>> No.2370  

>>2365
I’m gonna take one more shot: is it a North American River Otter?

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>>2370
It's actually a giant otter!

>> No.2373  

>>2372
That was a tricky one. Compared with other otters >>2166 the giant otters ears are really small for its head.



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74296 No.2321   [Reply]

An otter dining on a classic French speciality. What other delicacies do these gourmets enjoy?

>pic Rita Chapman
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Otters like eggs too.

>> No.2337  

>>2336
But do they eat them? Or just play with them?

>> No.2338  

>>2337 Eggs and small birds are part of otter's diet

>> No.2343  

>>2337
It sure looks like the ott in >>2336 is about to munch on that egg he’s holding

>> No.2345  

>>2343 About to take a big bite for sure



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